With the outlook being what it is in Toronto, wouldn't the team be better served in attempting to deal BJ Ryan to a contender before the season starts? That's when the most teams would be in play, and they know that they have 0 chance of signing him after 2010, so why not trade him now when his value is highest? They have other candidates in Accardo and Carlson to take the job and also have Farina coming up in the minors. For a closer like BJ they could surely pry a Bret Wallace type prospects that will help them out soon and for the long term. Thoughts?

3rd place finish? 4th if they are lucky

A third place finish? With the Yankees, Red Sox, and Rays all in the same division? Please, without Marcum and Burnett, the Jays will be lucky to get fourth place.

The Jays will be the same as last year and the year before around 85 wins. Enough of Burnett he had one good year actually one good half and in 12 of his wins the bullpen pitched from the 6th on. Given that they should have picked up and arm or two.

Sorry, but the Jays are going to battle it out with Baltimore for a 4th place finish. Trading Ryan sounds like a decent idea, since the Jays should be in full rebuilding mode right now. Unfortunately, closers haven't been in great demand this offseason... there's bound to be a team or two interested though. A Halladay trade should be considered as well - he is the best thing your team has going right now, but his talent is wasted on a 4th place team and I doubt he will stick around once his contract is up. You could get some nice prospects for him, especially since his ~$30M over the next two years is a bargain.

as much as some may feel they should blow it up 'cause they have no chance, those people are wrong. the jays are building for a run in 2010, w/a healthy marcum and mcgowan, and more experience under the belts of Lind and snider they should actually be in a position to contend(they had the 3rd BEST pythagorean record in MLB last year).

Also as shocking as it seams Doc Halladay has continually stated he has no desire to leave as long as the Jay are fielding teams with intent of winning(he's some kind of anachronistic, loyal, honest, moralist, work ethic fueled, all-around good guy, mormon; every one has a bad quality)

However It's my opinion that the jays will be looking to move Ryan. his contract is meh at 10M per year, the jays are looking to save some cash and their bullpen is full of good relievers both left and right handed(provided Scott downs recent elbow MRI is indeed nothing to worry about as has been said by the club, but with JP one can never know; he's purposefully dishonest to the fans/media regarding injuries) and even if ryan is moved the Jays are still MUCH better then BAL

I cannot believe we are carrying Lyle Overbay and Bautista/Millar at 1B and DH.

If this GM was good, he would have found a way to trade for a young stud middle of the order bat, without taking on salary (someone like SD 1B Adrian Gonzalez).

What's wrong with Overbay? Or are you not familiar with baseball?

And I'm sure SD would absolutely give up their young, cheap stud, for no reason what so ever.

Re: Whats wrong with Overbay?

He had a .777. Was among the league worst in hits, runs, HR's, RBI's etc etc etc for 1B's.

And dont argue that his OBP is the reason is great. It was good, but not great and he was TERRIBLE for the first half of the season.

A championship team needs more from its 1B.

With regards to Gonzalez; you sound like a bittern man.

I certainly didn't suggest SD would give away a great young hitter -- but rather suggested, we need to see our team pull off some of a great deal that addresses team needs, within the financial constraints they have given themselves.

No one in baseball claims that JP is a great GM. Yet we hear this about Billy Beane and Jon Daniels, and we used to hear this about Twins GM Terry Ryan all the time. Those are teams will small budgets that have pulled off many VERY good trades. If JP wants to be known this way, he needs to risk giving up a Lind, Snider, Cecil or JP Arencibia (whom no one else is nearly as high on as the Jays) and find a young reliable stud hitter and/or pitcher, that can make the difference now.

Friedman had the stones to trade "Baseball America's Top Prospect", for two players that helped win a World Series. He is a GREAT GM. Clearly. He has made countless excellent (and lucky) transactions that allowed his team to win.

Not JP and not the Blue Jays.

Blue Jays first baseman Lyle Overbay revealed yesterday he underwent three hernia surgeries over the winter. Overbay added he will likely miss the first week of the Grapefruit League schedule, which opens next Wednesday. The Jays will decide on whether to place him on the disabled list.

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